ITS International editor Adam Hill manages not to spill anything or get thrown out of Cafe IBTTA.
"Since nobody should have an interest in dumb transportation systems, when will 'ITS' become just 'transportation systems'?"
This is one of many good questions (at 22.10 onwards) arising from a chat over coffee with Pat Jones.
Other good questions covered include: why are accents important, what do mentors give you, what was Intertraffic like and how come the USA was involved in the first-ever international cricket match? Spoiler alert: it wasn't against England, either...